Brett Adcock Interview | Helix 2.5, the Holy Grail of Robotics and Figure 4
Figure CEO Brett Adcock discusses Helix 2.5, robotics data and compute, and Figure 4 with hosts at RoboStrategy.
At the Abundance 2025 Summit, Figure CEO Brett Adcock and investor Vinod Khosla answer audience questions with host Peter H. Diamandis about humanoid robots, adoption, policy, security and the technologies that may accelerate their impact.
Adcock says Figure is focused on shipping 100,000 robots to its first two customer groups, with limited capacity for additional pilots. He favors one general-purpose hardware platform over custom chassis, arguing it can lower costs toward $20,000 and help AI transfer across tasks. He expects robots to move from indoor work toward homes and outdoor settings over the next decade; Diamandis distinguishes a working demonstration from reaching 1% adoption.
Diamandis names Commonwealth Fusion Systems, Helion, TAE Systems and Realta as credible fusion efforts, but says siting plants may take longer than developing the technology because of regulation and community objections. He is less bullish on rapid fusion deployment and sees potential for 5,000 fission plants by 2050. For electricity distribution, he says local 50-megawatt reactors could be placed at substations and reduce transmission needs, though more transmission will still be required.
Responding to a question about basic income, Diamandis predicts job displacement alongside productivity and GDP growth, with a risk of widening income inequality. He says policy choices will shape how countries distribute the benefits, and that the current capitalist system may need changes. Khosla advises founders to raise money in stages, test assumptions against milestones, and reserve larger funding rounds for scaling.
Adcock says Figure has a company mandate against military applications and describes cybersecurity as a priority. He says robots can run neural networks onboard without a network connection, with firmware limits intended to block certain actions and prevent root access. On surgery, Khosla expects unsupervised robotic procedures to remain more than 10 years away, with regulation, including the FDA, a major constraint.
Adcock sees space as a promising environment for humanoids because it is difficult for people, while Diamandis expects workforce robots to arrive in large numbers before household and space applications. For agriculture, Adcock expects robots to start indoors before moving outdoors; Diamandis says farm capability may be demonstrated within five years, while widespread adoption takes longer. Khosla also predicts AI systems could multiply scientific capacity 10 to 100 times within five years by generating and testing research hypotheses.
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